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01 September 2010 @ 10:13 pm
Now, About Crossposting LJ Comments  
As many have said: I promise not to use the new LJ function that crossposts comments to Facebook and Twitter, and I would appreciate it if you would not use it on my LJ.  Thanks!

Further, may I suggest just never using it at all?  Of course the text of your own comments is yours!  You can copy and paste your own words as always.  But the new function cracks f-locks, identifies original posters, and makes it all too easy for a simple mis-click to expose people on forums where they may have chosen not to be, or where they may have an entirely different presence.  Some who don't care today will care tomorrow.  Naturally, it is up to you!  Thank you for considering it.

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chelseagirl on September 2nd, 2010 11:02 am (UTC)
To me, LJ and FB are so incredibly different; I can't imagine ever wanting to crosspost what I write here to there. And if there *is* something I want to share with both groups (since there's a lot of non-overlap), I can certainly manage to create two separate posts. *sigh* Bad idea. Very bad.
Amy R.: Tracybrightknightie on September 3rd, 2010 08:30 pm (UTC)
If LJ does nothing else to address this mess, they should at the very least create a "never" setting, so that people don't have to worry every time they comment that they might accidentally click the wrong box and create a problem for someone.

The only people I can imagine fervently wishing to crosspost like that are people who are linking professional, promotional presences (for example, artists or authors or politicians whose LJ, FB, etc. are all equally for marketing purposes, not for true social networking). I am aware of people whose job it is to ensure that such people can post once and have it automatically mirrored in a dozen places.

But private, adult individuals in their off-duty lives? Not the same at all.

I wonder whether I need a Larry Merlin icon for these occasions. :-)
chelseagirl on September 3rd, 2010 10:07 pm (UTC)
I'm kind of wondering, though, how anyone will know that chelseagirl47 is me? I mean, I'm on FB under my real name, how will the connection be made, even if someone does accidentally post me there?

But yeah, I keep the two things deliberately very separate.
Amy R.: Tracybrightknightie on September 5th, 2010 09:37 pm (UTC)
>[If] "I'm on FB under my real name [and a different name on LJ] how will the connection be made, even if someone does accidentally post me there?"

I'm sure that many others have detailed it much better than I can! But I'll try?

If your names never have overlapped, and the people who know you in both places never disclose the linkage, you're fine. And naturally any exposure that can happen now, automatically and effortlessly, could have happened before, if someone took the time and made the effort.

Many people have posted this sort of concern: "Although I have a different name on my LJ, I have people on my LJ f-list whom I've friended on Facebook and/or Twitter, who themselves have friended people from my Real Life. One careless cross-posting accident, and my grandparents and employers could know that I [insert disruption here]."

(I know that you know, of course, but for the benefit of anyone else who happens to read this: aside from concerns over being revealed to stalkers and abusers, there are still parts of the US where it's legal to discriminate against tenants for their sexual orientations, and against employees for their political convictions, and so on, and even where it's not legal, it's beyond an ordinary person's means to stop without great struggle.)

---Playing it FK fic:---

So imagine that Tracy Vetter is [LJ USER="button1970"] and button1970@freenet.to.ca, with a FB page under her full real name, and that she has not linked her LJ to her FB.

Say that Bruce from OtLi is a LJ friend, and Bruce has her father, Commissioner Richard Vetter, friended on his FB, and her mother, Barbara Vetter, among his Twitter followers. Self-aggrandizing Bruce links all his accounts and sets them to cross-post automatically. Every time one of Bruce's comments on Tracy's LJ posts appears on his Twitter and FB, Richard and Barbara both see a LJ link to [LJ USER="button1970"]. Barbara easily recognizes that as matching Tracy's personal email address, and Richard recognizes his daughter's nickname and birth year. Now they pretty much know that Tracy has a LiveJournal account, what it's called and where, even though she's never told them. Say someday Tracy breaks down under f-lock about how miserable her parents' divorce proceedings are, begging her friends for support, and Bruce comments to her and clicks the boxes to broadcast his reply as he is wont to do -- whether accidentally, or because he's so self-aggrandizing -- then his comment in its entirety, including text he copied from Tracy's original f-locked post, appears on his Facebook with her LJ name and a link to her f-locked post, and in an abbreviated form on his Twitter. Barbara and Richard see his comments, and even though Tracy did not use their names or her own, and posted under a lock in a place she thought they didn't know about, they recognize the situation and are hurt and furious with her.

Alternatively, posit a concerned unlocked post by [LJ USER="button1970"] about an unnamed uncle who is very sick, mentioning that he struggled to give up cigarettes for a year longer than he let his insurance company know. Say that her cousin links all his acccounts, comments on this post, and refers to the unnamed uncle as "dad." If they were in certain US states rather than Canada, Tracy and her cousin could potentially have handed Uncle Sonny a discontinuation of his health insurance (I don't know whether it could also affect his transplant status). I understand that in some states insurance companies actually employ investigators to track down any reason to drop an expensive patient like Uncle Sonny.

Alternatively, say that Tracy is [LJ USER="callalilies"] on LJ as a vent for the new wrinkle in her reality, something that intrigues her but which is perilous to her job, never mind the Enforcers. She feels safe; no one but Vachon could recognize the account as hers by name. But say someone from her past (or her father's past, cf. NiQ) recognizes her writing style, or an anecdote of a shared experience, from the quoted parts in her friends' crossposted comments. Now this person possesses information (all the public comments she's ever posted, the communities she belongs to, etc.) that could cost her job and her life.

Edited at 2010-09-05 09:40 pm (UTC)
greerwatsongreerwatson on September 2nd, 2010 05:08 pm (UTC)
I think I can promise not to do this—not being on either Facebook or Twitter.
Amy R.: Ursbrightknightie on September 3rd, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
That does make it straightforward. ~g~

Some people are required by their jobs to be on those other venues, of course, whatever they may think about them personally.