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27 August 2009 @ 11:51 pm
FK Recommendation August 2009  
What's Good?  Thanks to hearts_blood, I did get August's recommendation-of-the-month up this past Tuesday, setting a new lateness record.  (Sorry! My blunder!)  So what do I think is so much worth the time in the little bit of August left?  Her Vachon character sketch "Nocturnal Pleasure" (2003).
        Which meant that if he skipped town, Nick would kill him, and if he brought Tracy across, Nick would kill him, and if he didn't bring Tracy across, the Enforcers would kill them both.

What's New?  In July, fkfic-l saw two authors posting three new stories. 

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greerwatsongreerwatson on August 29th, 2009 06:16 am (UTC)
That's a nice piece of...
                    Vachoniana. (That's what I was going to say. Yup.) A nice peek at his...

Seriously, though. I think her "defunct FK site" ought to be polished up, with her stories and poems put in. It's very pretty, and deserves to be finished properly. Also, she has some nice essays.
Amy R.: Ursbrightknightie on August 30th, 2009 07:49 pm (UTC)
The Vachon vignette fit a mood nostalgic for early third-season newbiedom. :-)

hearts_blood says that she is abandoning, rather than relocating, her fansites with the impending Geocities shutdown, which is why I labeled the link "defunct." I will forward your comments to her; she definitely has an ongoing audience for her work!
greerwatsongreerwatson on August 30th, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC)
Do please forward. I have the entire site downloaded, and the Yahoo stuff cleaned off it. It's all ready to go.

I've been doing this with a lot of the GeoCities sites that are about to be lost. Steph Kellerman is putting them up on her site, www.foreverknight.org. In fact, if I hadn't stopped sending her the little'uns in order to give her Cousin Mary's multi-part site and the Dark Perks' Mansion (in eight zip files), Steph would probably have got hearts_blood's site already. It was obviously abandoned; and without a way of informing her—any more than any of the others—I'd simply have "saved" it.

Cousin Mary, on the other hand, I got in touch through LJ. I've sent hearts_blood an LJ message, since, through you, I now know her LJ name; but I haven't heard back. Well, as she's not looking at the list any more, she doesn't know me from Eve. (Or even from Adam, given my unusual name.)
Amy R.: Tracybrightknightie on August 30th, 2009 09:57 pm (UTC)
I've emailed this comment to hearts_blood as well.

I did not know about this project. Who else do you need to reach, to learn whether they want their sites included or not? I may know where to contact some people.

While I am obviously lacking the details of this project, my very first reaction is concern. For example, I have tried for years to get my oldest stuff (with my unfortunately searchable full real name) deleted from certain sites, without success. Either the proprietors never reply, or they promise to delete the files but never do. Some people may have similar concerns about the GeoCities sites. Would they now contact Steph with requests to remove their names or content?
greerwatsongreerwatson on August 31st, 2009 12:48 am (UTC)
archiving old FK websites (pt. 1)
This all started when Nancy Taylor posted on FORKNI-L a couple of weeks ago, asking what people were doing about their GeoCities sites. I knew that I would need to find a home for my own; but, up till then, I'd simply assumed that—with the lead time available—other people would take care of their own sites. (A bit simple of me.)

Nancy had gone through her site, checking links, and come up with a fairly long list of FK fan sites that were in danger.

I checked them, and was most unhappy: some sites were quite small; but there were several faction sites involved, as well as War sites. It was these that particularly troubled both Nancy and me. So I announced on FORKNI-L my idea of saving the sites. (Why FORKNI-L? It still has a lot of subscribers; and it's really the only place where FK fans of all factions meet. Yahoo groups tend to be smaller and more specialized; and who knows who is on LJ, unless you know their current user name.)

Besides my reaction, Nancy's post got Deborah Hymon trying to get in touch with someone whose site she likes a lot. (So far, in vain.) And, after my announcement, two people delurked wanting to know if I would save their sites: they were utterly flummoxed as to how to do this themselves.

So the first thing I did was save all the pages on the sites that Nancy had mentioned. Then I googled, in the hope of finding any other FK GeoCities sites—of which there were a few, plus FK-related material elsewhere. I saved the lot. You can find a list of what's out there on the FK Wiki: http://foreverknight.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Defunct_fan_websites

Well, first off: some of these things are clearly ineligible. I have no intention of uploading anything from an old GWD Fan Club site: the material is obviously theirs; and they have a new site. Similarly, the odd FK-related story or poem on a site connected with another TV series, or a general TV site, or a filk site...these are mentioned on the wiki page, but they're clearly not things that it would be appropriate to upload somewhere else.

The first priority is the War material and the faction sites. In a very real sense, these belong to the whole fandom.
greerwatsongreerwatson on August 31st, 2009 12:57 am (UTC)
archiving old FK websites (pt. 2)
As far as personal fan sites are concerned, Steph and I discussed this. If we don't take them, they'll be lost. Most of these sites have clearly not been touched in years. This is basically a rescue job.

Secondly, we're moving the whole site. We're not stripping them of stories and graphics, except as the means by which the data is saved. (After that, the Yahoo-stuff is taken off and relative links put in where necessary so that the site can be reconstituted.) Effectively, this means that the site is simply moving holus bolus to a different server.

Presumably, when the site was first put up, its owner wanted the material out there, read by other FK fans. And if, subsequently, the person had wanted the site taken down, they would have done it themselves long ago. Most of them have probably just moved on to other things, leaving the detritus of their old fandom behind them, lingering on the net.

Certainly, if someone sees their site and wants it taken down, I'd do it—and I'm sure Steph would agree.

Cousin Mary is happy with having her things moved. I've tried contacting hearts_blood. Deborah has tried contacting Patty; in the interim, I've saved her site, and—when I've edited the pages so they'll work outside GeoCities—I'll send them to Steph. I've been posting regularly to FORKNI-L: in particular, I've made several posts trying to contact people connected with faction sites. Not with a lot of success, either; but I have tried.

If you look at the wiki page, you can see what's moved and what hasn't, so far. Cousin Mary's material and the Dark Perks' Mansion (which is a faction site) are in process of moving now. I plan to move the Forever Knight Fanatics's castle next week. Don is looking for a new website himself. I still have the War 11 and 12 material to go. And Mildred Cady is, I think, on holiday: she's going to inspect the Merc Central site when she gets home. (Right now, something's wrong with it, and it can't be accessed.)

I'm going to hold off on moving hearts_blood's site for now, since there is the possibility of contacting her. However, as far as the other people are concerned: check the things I've moved, and see if there's anyone there you know how to contact. I certainly would prefer that people know what I'm doing!

But time is short: I'd rather save now (and delete later if asked), than wait with fingers crossed—keeping on hoping to find a way to contact people—until eventually time runs out and it's too late.
hearts_blood on August 31st, 2009 02:25 am (UTC)
Re: archiving old FK websites (pt. 2)
@ greerwatson: Sorry for the late response, I was camping in Massachusetts and without Internet for a week! But I did respond to the PM you sent! I AM ALIVE, I PROMISE!!!
Amy R.: Nick Solemnbrightknightie on September 8th, 2009 02:39 am (UTC)
Re: archiving old FK websites (pt. 2)
Thank you very much for all the explanations. I do still subscribe to forkni-l, but I'm afraid it's sometimes months between times I open a digest. I don't mean to downgrade the importance of the FK community to me; it's also sometimes months between when I get to watch television, or have a social outing, anymore, too -- fandom is dear, and one of the last things to be trimmed at need.